September 30, 2004

LET ME SPELL THIS OUT

i'm waiting for bill to blog about the e-mail and comment he received critical of his right to and/or motives for posting his monthly list of american casualties each month. i think it might just be too hard for him.

if you scroll down on his side to his latest post and list and open the comments, you'll find a comment from "someone" with an e-mail address of somewhere@msn.com..

"How dare you use the names of our soilders who fought and died for a cause they believed in. The servicemen and servicewomen fought to maintain the freedom and democracy in the USA. Remember 9/11. How do you think we will elimate a threat to our nation's freedom? These men and women were in Iraq for the cause not just for a paycheck. They belived in President Bush and stood behind him as do I."

"use" the names? in what way is bill using the names? it is bill's intent to honor these soldiers by naming each of them. we have a 19-year-old son, a 22-year-old son, and a 23-year-old "semi-son." it's not too hard to imagine the grief and suffering surrounding the loss of these soldiers. we grieve for each one of them, their family, and friends. i'm sorry if you don't understand or believe that. too bad.

this is not a site that we maintain for the purpose of making money. we write here for a very limited "audience." first - for ourselves. we write because we want to. not because we're writers. but because we want to put something down. second - for family and friends who are interested. third - because we've met some very nice people here. it's very simple - don't come here if you don't like what we say. we don't care if we have 10 readers a day, as long as they're nice.

for you to think that bill's posting of the names (specifically the one that you search for and come here to find) is anything but his way of trying to honor these people by putting at least their name and hometown to a real person's name is some kind of dishonor to them - only because we have a different point of view on this "war" is ludicrous. you're wrong. period.

i would LOVE to believe that these soldiers fought to "maintain the freedom and democracy in the USA." believe me - that would feel so much better. unfortunately, i / we cannot. we believe, as the 9/11 commission also concluded, that there is no link between Iraq and al-Qaida in attacks against the United States. so yes, we remember 9/11. again, unfortunately, we don't find it possible to stick our heads up our asses and blindly "believe." there are too many reasons not to.

we believe that the president has a sacred duty to use and send our soldiers into harm's way ONLY when absolutely necessary. bush and others lied to us. he sent our children to fight for his own purposes. to die for his own purposes. not for ours. these people are not little green plastic army men. they were human beings. how many more will die?

and just for the record, don't assume that we believe that serving in the armed forces is in some way a dishonorable pursuit. we believe that the principles for which we used to stand - life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ALL - are worth serving, honoring, and yes, even dying for. i HAD encouraged my children to consider entering the armed forces when they were younger. i assumed (silly me) that we could depend on our leaders to use my children for honorable purposes [not gas for your hummer or to spread christianity or get revenge for daddy]. i thank god that neither one of them shared my misguided faith in the honor of our leaders.

i STILL believe that serving in the armed forces in honorable and admirable. i just wish our leaders were worthy of their faith.

Posted by Stacey at September 30, 2004 06:15 PM
Comments

http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation

That will tell you were the IP is located. Its almost scary how CLOSE to the location it gets.


http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl

That will tell you the IP provided.

As for "someone" or "somebody".... their home, their rules... back off!

- Dana

Posted by: -d at September 30, 2004 06:32 PM

Well said, Stacey!

When I hear things like what that poster wrote, I seriously have little panic attacks.

the stupidity of some of my fellow americans is almost more dumbfounding than the stupidity of our president.

Posted by: jen at September 30, 2004 07:16 PM

What really bugs me is that people don't understand that the soldiers don't all believe in what they're doing over in Iraq either (or AT LEAST how it's being done). I talk to friends on AIM that have served over there, and they can't even talk about it because it gets them so upset. There are plenty of soldiers that support Kerry (or at least the opposite of Bush) and the agenda of Iraq being a poor decision/being done poorly. Of course, it's a limited sample, but at the same time, to lump all of them together is a disservice to the PERSONAL and HEARTFELT sacrifice that they are giving.

They joined to serve our country, not the talking monkey that we call a president.

AND what bugs me EVEN MORE is the fact that HE uses them as a fucking tool. They're not only little green army men, they're his political weapon. His comments in the debate tonight sickened me.

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Posted by: matt at September 30, 2004 11:58 PM

well said.

Posted by: Keri at October 1, 2004 12:47 AM

I will join the chorus and say AMEN SISTER! and brother (for bill).

xo

Posted by: jenB at October 1, 2004 01:18 AM

I assumed Bill was speaking out of respect, particularly for the families. I thought the paragraph about Lance Cpl. Drew M. Uhles was especially moving. I haven't read 'the comment' yet.

We don't bring up our sons just to have their lives thrown away.

Posted by: Anji at October 1, 2004 10:41 AM

Hear, hear.

Posted by: lucy at October 1, 2004 03:19 PM

Very well put Stacey.

Posted by: Michelle at October 1, 2004 04:38 PM

I had always thought it was cool of Bill to take the time and honor the names when he listed them. Don't hold back Stacey girl!

Posted by: Charlene at October 6, 2004 09:53 PM

Hi. Thanks for this site, i have been trying to do my homework Martin! i couldnt find anything. Buhbyeee

Posted by: Martin at October 20, 2004 09:34 AM