i got an e-mail this morning from my darling sister, diann. i love her dearly. she's a good soul, a wonderful woman; but i guess we haven't had enough political conversations.
here's the e-mail.
Please Sign Letter To President Bush.... and Forward...Please do NOT let this petition stop and lose all these names. If you do not want to sign it, please forward it to everyone you know.
Thank you!!! ONCE YOU HAVE CLICKED FORWARD GO TO THE BOTTOM OF
THE PAGE AND PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO PRESIDENT BUSH THEN SEND THIS ON UNTIL THERE ARE 1000 NAMES.
THE 1000TH PERSON SEND IT ON TO THE E-MAIL BELOW:
President@WhiteHouse.gov
mailto:President@WhiteHouse.gov
To add your name to the bottom, click on "forward." You will be able to add your name to the list and then forward it to your friends.
Or, if you prefer, you can copy and paste, and then add your name to the bottom of the list.
Dear President Bush:
Many of us were deeply touched to hear you recite a portion of Psalm 23 in your address to this great nation in the dark hours following the terrorists attacks. We were encouraged and comforted to know that we truly had a believer working with us and for us in our nation's highest office.
We, the people of America, are requesting that you lift the prohibition of prayer in schools. As the pledge of our great country states, we are to be One nation, under God." Please allow the prayers and petitions of our children in schools without the threat of punishment. Currently, adults and children in the school are prohibited from mentioning God unless of course His name is uttered as part of a curse or profanity. Madeline Murray O'Hare is dead. Let her legacy of atheism in our schools die with her! Sincerely, We,The People of the United States of America Mark 10:13-14 "People were bringing little children to Jesus to have Him touch them, but the disciples rebuked them..When Jesus saw this, He was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these."
PETITION TO REINSTATE PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS:
signatures of believers followed. diann was #967. here’s the reply i sent to diann AND all the people to whom she sent the e-mail.
diann,
there are many true americans who believe in god who don't agree with this. are offended by it. one of them is me.
i get so many of these during the year, and i'm always silent. i just delete them. but i need to say that the sarcastic, nasty tone of the language implies that anyone who believes differently is not a true american at the very least.
i know that i prayed a lot while i was in school and didn't feel the need to be led in prayer in a group. i never felt that that was prohibited to me. and i also never felt the need to ask others to join me. i never felt that the privacy of my conversation with god diminished me or it.
i believe that this country was founded upon -- and god knows -- continues to try (yes, i understand the irony in using god's name in this sentence) to adhere to the principles of separation of church and state. i believe that's a good thing. i don't believe that leads to chaos and evil.
that's my two cents. i hope YOU are not offended. i've sent this to the people on the list to whom you sent the e-mail because i don't want the impression to stand that i agree.
i love you. god bless you.
Stacey
i also copied some people. not too many. just some people who’ve sent me those same kinds of e-mails and a couple of other friends.
npr was talking about the “division” in this country that the presidential candidates are having to navigate. this division purportedly is about half and half. half believers and half non-believers. i disagree. it’s much more complicated. it’s believers who object to separation of church and state, believers who don’t object, AND non believers. and i guess others, too.
just open your hearts AND minds, people.
Its all about respecting differences...
-d
As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in schools.
Seriously, I agree with you. And those e-mails tick me off too.
Couldn't agree more.
Posted by: kathy at January 8, 2004 04:55 PMTo each their own.. tis what makes us American. But, I would add my 2 cents worth (not that you asked) and say that religion belongs in the home and in your church, not in the public education system. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Cowtown Pattie at January 8, 2004 09:30 PMOK...telling you that I think YOU TOTALLY ROCK is an understatement. I couldn't agree more with you!
I too used to sit silent and delete those types of messages that I received and I have stopped doing that. If someone feels compelled to assume my beliefs by sending me those messages I will not hesitate to correct them on what I believe.
Do not assume I am Christian and I will not assume that I can crawl into your lap and lick your face while barking to the tune of "Who are the people in your neighborhood."
Posted by: Kathy Howe at January 8, 2004 09:40 PMSo well said Stacey!
Posted by: Keri at January 8, 2004 11:56 PMHmm. . . I got that forward from you, but it didn't work, which is too bad since, although the language of the petition may be off, the sentiment is right on. Public schools have waged a war on religion in general and Christianity in particular. It is time something was to stem the secularism that is force fed to schoolchildren.
Isn't it nice to have some diversity in the comments?
diversity?! i LOVE diversity! and from you, brett, i expected an argument. but not one of those espoused by the ca-ra-zy-i-see-dead-people front. i expected a reasoned, RATIONAL argument. maybe even a constitutional argument.
a WAR AGAINST CHRISTIANITY in public schools? by whom, brett? the mostly christian administrators? the mostly christian parents? the mostly christian voters? or have you just relabeled the constitutionally mandated opposition to ANY religious ethos as a WAR AGAINST CHRISTIANITY cuz, really, you, um, got nothin'?
Posted by: stacey at January 9, 2004 08:59 AMLike they said - I couldn't agree more and I am not EVEN American *lol*
Posted by: Michelle at January 9, 2004 09:00 AMI demand that prayer be instituted in school, and that it be rotated among all faiths represented by more than 100,000 people in this country. Force a few of those nice christian kids to pray to MY god, and in hebrew. The next week, force them all to give devotion to Shiva. Then insist on ten minutes of totally silent zazen from the entire middle school. If religion is so important, let's bring it all in. If we are saying that only christian prayer - and protestant christian, at that - is valid, I'm going to have to disagree.
But not with you, Stacey. You're just great. Thanks for taking the time to "share the good news."
Posted by: dan at January 9, 2004 04:16 PM